Maxim Tvorun-Dunn, a PhD candidate at the University of Tokyo, and Emma Goldberg, a business reporter at the New York Times, dive into the intriguing synergy between tech elites and psychedelics. They discuss how these substances are gaining traction among Silicon Valley leaders as tools for self-optimization and spiritual exploration. The conversation also highlights the commercialization of psychedelics, contrasting traditional practices with corporate interest, and raises critical questions about access and ethical implications in this burgeoning industry.