Max Meyer, founder of Arena Magazine, discusses his bold decision to launch a print publication in 2024. He delves into the decline of legacy media and the chaos of social media, likening it to a steam valve for societal frustrations. The conversation touches on the wisdom of Ratatouille, the evolution of political oratory, and the optimism versus pessimism debate surrounding human progress. Meyer also shares insights on capitalism's role in innovation and the significant impact of tangible media in our increasingly digital world.