Guests include Dan Jones, a historian known for his works on medieval history, and Max Brooks, an author famous for his zombie literature and commentary on modern warfare. They dive into the absurdities of political narratives, exploring the evolving expectations of leadership, especially among Gen Z. Their conversation extends to crucial societal issues, from immigration complexities to the challenges posed by China's AI advancements, all while providing historical insights that illuminate today’s political climate.

Max Brooks, author of "World War Z" and the "Minecraft" series, discusses how zombies and gaming can teach resilience and adaptability in uncertain times. He shares insights from his unique journey into fiction and national security, emphasizing the importance of embracing discomfort for personal growth. Max explores how Minecraft can educate kids on economics while promoting creative problem-solving. From facing fear of the unknown to learning from historical lessons, he illustrates the necessity of cooperation in navigating a rapidly changing world.

Author, actor and senior fellow at the Modern War Institute Max Brooks joins Dan to discuss asymmetrical warfare and related societal issues. 1. "On War" by Gen. Carl von Clausewitz 2. “The Art of War” by Sun Tsu 3. "War and Anti-War: Survival at the Dawn of the 21st Century” by Alvin and Heidi Toffler

Robert De Niro, an iconic actor renowned for classics like "Taxi Driver," joins author Max Brooks, known for "World War Z," and political correspondent Tara Palmeri. They share sharp insights on aging leaders like Biden and the political landscape shaped by Trump's surprising popularity. Discussions veer into the humor of the 'Masturbation Economy' and its ties to celebrity culture, as well as the need for balanced conversations around immigration and crime. Expect wit and candor as they tackle current events with a unique flair!

Max Brooks, author of World War Z, teaches kids life lessons through Minecraft. They discuss the educational aspects of Minecraft, Brooks' transition from zombies to military research, and their admiration for their mothers.