Guests include Dan Jones, a historian known for his works on medieval history, and Max Brooks, an author famous for his zombie literature and commentary on modern warfare. They dive into the absurdities of political narratives, exploring the evolving expectations of leadership, especially among Gen Z. Their conversation extends to crucial societal issues, from immigration complexities to the challenges posed by China's AI advancements, all while providing historical insights that illuminate today’s political climate.

Max Brooks, author of World War Z and Minecraft novels, discusses resilience, fear of the unknown, and using Minecraft to teach problem-solving. He shares insights on his career, researching crises, and the power of fiction. Also covered are the fight, flight, or freeze response, embracing discomfort, and the consequences of resisting change.

Author, actor and senior fellow at the Modern War Institute Max Brooks joins Dan to discuss asymmetrical warfare and related societal issues. 1. "On War" by Gen. Carl von Clausewitz 2. “The Art of War” by Sun Tsu 3. "War and Anti-War: Survival at the Dawn of the 21st Century” by Alvin and Heidi Toffler

The podcast covers recent political events and an interview with Robert De Niro. They discuss concerns about Trump's re-election and the impact of a dangerous individual in New York. Bill Maher introduces humorous 'New Rules' and hosts The Cajonys Awards ceremony, acknowledging courage and defending individual opinions.

Max Brooks, author of World War Z, teaches kids life lessons through Minecraft. They discuss the educational aspects of Minecraft, Brooks' transition from zombies to military research, and their admiration for their mothers.