Author and psychonaut Matthew Pallamary discusses the old days of psychedelic culture and clandestine chemistry, including legal challenges faced by scientists in the field. The chapter also explores the perception of psychedelic compounds among scientists and their potential therapeutic effects. The podcast touches on the certification process for working with psychedelics, their potential for treating OCD and mental health issues, and navigating challenges of information and personal growth. The episode concludes with a discussion of Pallamary's newly released book 'The Thinning Veil: 13 Twisted Tales' and exploring Black Mirror, Iowaska art, and artistic dedication.