In a captivating discussion, Matthew McGuire, author of *A Magical World*, brings his biblical studies background to the forefront as he delves into the intriguing world of Extrasensory Perception (ESP). He examines whether ESP is a natural phenomenon or has demonic influences, emphasizing its implications within the church. The conversation also tackles the ethics of ESP, the intersection of faith and science, and the need for a pastoral approach to those with such abilities. McGuire navigates how believers should engage with supernatural perceptions, enriching the dialogue on spirituality.