Katie Hopkins, an English media personality known for her controversial views, joins Matthew Bunon, a Harvard energy policy expert. They dive into the evolving political landscapes in both the US and UK, tackling contentious issues like gun rights and policing. The conversation covers Liz Truss's brief tenure as Prime Minister and the implications of U.S. aid to Ukraine amidst domestic economic woes. They also discuss activist protests and the challenges of free speech in today's digital age, making for a lively and thought-provoking dialogue.