Matthew Berman, an expert in large language models, joins the discussion on the latest AI updates. The trio dives into Grok 3, Claude 3.7, and GPT-4.5, comparing their coding abilities and unique features. Claude 3.7 impresses with its enhanced coding skills but falls short in chat performance. The conversation also touches on AI bias, the need for better benchmarks, and the evolving landscape of AI versus human oversight. Berman offers insights on potential upgrades and the excitement surrounding GPT-5, making for a thought-provoking exchange.