Felicia Schwartz, a U.S. foreign affairs correspondent, discusses the tensions around NATO's support for Ukraine amidst its war with Russia. Matthew Akins shares his insights on the controversial decision to send cluster munitions to the frontlines, drawing from his experiences in conflict zones. They dive into Ukraine's aspirations for NATO membership, the complexities of military aid, and the moral implications of using such weapons, sparking a dialogue about civilian safety and international responsibility in modern warfare.