
Matthew Akins (journalist excerpt)
Journalist who reported from Afghanistan since 2008 and whose on-the-ground accounts are used in the episode to describe the Kabul fall and evacuation scenes.
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Dec 14, 2025 • 36min
Lawfare Archive: Introducing Allies: A Podcast Series from Lawfare and Goat Rodeo
Matthew Akins, a journalist who reported from Afghanistan since 2008, shares gripping insights on the chaotic Kabul evacuation in August 2021. He highlights how Afghan interpreters became tragic targets and the crucial role they played for U.S. military operations. The lack of regional expertise before 9/11 and the subsequent reliance on local partners is discussed, revealing the profound implications of the Special Immigrant Visa (SIV) program failures. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of the complex relationships that shaped U.S. actions in Afghanistan.


