Ben Fisch, Co-founder and CEO of Espresso, and Matt Pearing, Head of Product at Offchain Labs, discuss the future of Ethereum roll-ups. They delve into how Espresso's fast confirmation system enhances transaction speeds and supports interoperability without sacrificing decentralization. The duo explores the challenges of fragmented liquidity and the importance of democratizing sequencers. Their collaboration aims to advance scalability and composability, demonstrating how strategic innovations can shape a user-friendly rollup ecosystem.