In this discussion, researcher Matt Mouzakis dives into the complex relationship between faith and political power, shedding light on the implications of Romans 13 through the Deuteronomy 32 lens. He challenges traditional views of divine governance, arguing that God embodies a collaborative nature rather than authoritarianism. Topics include the role of spiritual beings, forbidden knowledge, and the nuanced portrayal of Satan. The conversation ultimately calls for a re-examination of modern political systems in light of Jesus' teachings, emphasizing a kingdom ruled by Christ, not earthly powers.