Joe Schutt, a journalist and author, discusses the nuanced human relationship with rats, framing them as both pests and misunderstood companions. Matt Fry, an urban pest management expert, shares innovative strategies to tackle rat populations, especially after New York City's first national urban rat summit. Todd Zwilich, a correspondent and former neuroscience student, reflects on the emotional complexities of working with rats and the ethical dilemmas in research. Together, they explore the broader implications of rats on health, safety, and urban living.
