In this engaging discussion, host Matt Forde welcomes Afua Hirsch, a renowned writer and advocate, and Peter Frankopan, a historian and author. They dive into the scandalous life of Charles Dickens, exploring his tumultuous home life rife with extravagance, infidelity, and personal turmoil. The trio examines the contradictions of Dickens as both a literary genius and a flawed man, while also unpacking his profound influence on modern Christmas traditions. Listeners are sure to be captivated by the unexpected layers of this iconic figure's legacy.