Matt Bevan

Host of the If You're Listening podcast and ABC journalist who discusses figures in Donald Trump's orbit and recounts reporting and interviews from 2025.

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Dec 23, 2025 • 25min

Matt Bevan on the players in Trump’s orbit

Matt Bevan, host of the If You're Listening podcast and an ABC journalist, dives into the unconventional characters surrounding Donald Trump. He shares fascinating stories about Steve Witkoff, a former deli owner turned peace envoy, including a poignant account of grief driving his humanitarian efforts. Bevan also explores Howard Lutnick’s link to 9/11 and his controversial economic strategies, revealing how Trump's staffing strategy favors loyalty over merit. The conversation highlights the intricate web of relationships influencing U.S. policies.

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