In a captivating conversation, Mati, CEO of ElevenLabs, and Anton, founder of Lovable, share insights on building hypergrowth startups in Europe. They tackle the challenges of managing co-founder relationships and transitioning from founder to CEO roles. Themes include the need for effective delegation, hiring strategies, and adapting to rapid changes in AI. They highlight Europe's unique advantages like talent and cost while debating work culture intensity. Both offer practical advice for aspiring founders, emphasizing problem obsession and careful co-founder selection.