Mateusz Stróżyński, a professor of classical philology and psychoanalyst, delves into the wisdom of Plotinus and its relevance today. He discusses how contemplation is an active participation in reality, intricately tying thought with experience. Stróżyński also explores the interplay of knowing in contemplative practices, contrasting insights from Buddhism and Christian mysticism. The conversation highlights the interconnectedness of reality, advocating for a holistic understanding that bridges philosophy, spirituality, and cognitive science.