In this conversation with Mason Earle, a former pro-climber now navigating life with ME/CFS, the focus shifts to resilience and gratitude. Mason shares how chronic illness transformed his perspective on life, prompting reflections on suffering, identity, and the importance of mental health. He discusses the role of climbing in managing his condition, the impact on personal relationships, and the danger of toxic positivity. His journey highlights the necessity for empathy in conversations about health and the beauty of finding joy amid adversity.