In this podcast, Mary Kruger and Cece Sykes discuss addiction and Internal Family Systems (IFS). They explore alternatives to a traditional 'Plan' approach, working with your own parts when dealing with others, and the importance of welcoming the wisdom of firefighters. They also discuss how IFS can bridge the gap between the addiction and psychological worlds, bringing curiosity to the interactions of all parts involved. Exciting announcements and appreciation conclude the episode.

Mary Kruger, an IFS lead trainer and therapist, specializes in addiction and eating disorders. She shares her transformative journey with Internal Family Systems, emphasizing understanding addiction as a system imbalance rather than a moral failure. The discussion highlights how befriending addictive parts can lead to healing and how shame perpetuates addiction cycles. Mary also explores the power of group work in promoting connection, reducing shame, and fostering compassion, ultimately encouraging listeners to view their struggles as teachers on the path to recovery.