Mary Jordan and Kevin Sullivan, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists, share crucial insights on how the media must adapt to a potential second Trump presidency. They discuss the lessons learned from past coverage and the ongoing struggle with misinformation. Katie Riley, Tortoise’s data editor, emphasizes the need for innovative business models in journalism. The conversation dives into the challenges of maintaining journalistic integrity, navigating political fear, and focusing on serious issues rather than sensationalism in a rapidly changing media landscape.

Mary Jordan, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author of Melania Trump's unauthorized biography, joins to dissect Melania's new memoir. They critique its superficiality and reveal the challenges in accessing Melania's private life and family dynamics. The conversation highlights the contrast between Melania's glamorous public persona and her complex immigrant story. They explore the political implications of her choices during her husband's campaign and the timing of her book release, all while using humor to address the controversies in her narrative.