Riley Gaines, a former NCAA swimmer and advocate for women's sports, discusses the impact of COVID-19 on athletics and the ongoing debate over transgender participation in women’s sports. She emphasizes the need for fairness and transparency in these discussions. Joined by Marty Makary, a prominent FDA Commissioner and author, they tackle public health trust issues, the credibility of media narratives about COVID vaccinations, and the potential consequences for young athletes. Their dialogue highlights the intersection of sports, politics, and personal integrity.