Heidi Larson, a professor of anthropology and vaccine communication, joins Martin McKee, a public health expert, and Jane Ballentyne, a chronic pain management specialist. They tackle the urgent issue of health disinformation, exploring its impact on vaccine hesitancy. The conversation pivots to new guidelines against spinal injections for chronic pain, discussing the difficulties this poses for patients and doctors alike. The episode also reflects on progress in combating racism within UK medical schools, emphasizing the need for continued vigilance and change.