Dr. Marlene Gerber Fried, a legal scholar and advocate for reproductive rights, joins Dr. Loretta J. Ross, a human rights activist and co-creator of the reproductive justice framework. They discuss the urgent need for a broader understanding of reproductive justice beyond mere choice, emphasizing rights to have, not have, and raise children. The conversation weaves through historical oppression, the impact of the Hyde Amendment, and contemporary challenges in detention systems. They inspire resistance and highlight the importance of integrating social justice into the reproductive rights movement.