Renowned biologist Rupert Sheldrake and philosopher Mark Vernon discuss the dualistic nature of light, its symbolic and physical significance, connections to intelligence and spirituality, and its role in human experiences, such as dreaming. They explore the divine nature of light, sun worship, inner light and freedom, and the transformation of the universe into light according to Roger Penrose's cosmological theory.

In a thought-provoking discussion, Robert Rowland Smith, an expert in love and attachment styles, teams up with Mark Vernon, a philosopher exploring love's deeper meanings. They tackle intriguing questions about why we love, navigating between Freud's and Lacan's theories. The duo delves into how early experiences shape adult relationships and the interplay of love and suffering. They explore love as both idealization and a profound realization of reality, ultimately questioning the balance between individual desires and collective connections.