In this conversation, Heather Thorne, Executive Director of Access Fund, and Mark Udall, former U.S. Senator and passionate climber, tackle the challenges facing public lands. Heather reveals the innovative revolving loan model that empowers local climbing organizations to secure crucial access. Mark shares how climbing has shaped his life and his efforts in public service, urging climbers to engage politically. Together, they emphasize the importance of defending landscapes, voting, and community involvement for the future of climbing and conservation.
