Mark Minnick, former CEO of Van Wert County Hospital, dives deep into the tangled web of Munir Ueda’s life, a fugitive linked to a notorious healthcare fraud case. They discuss Ueda’s contrasting legacy with that of his father, ethical dilemmas in medicine, and the personal scandals that surrounded him. The chilling impact of healthcare fraud on patients is highlighted, revealing manipulative practices and a culture of greed that exploits vulnerable individuals. Minnick shares insights into the complexities of fraud within the healthcare system, making for a gripping listen.