Mark Malloch-Brown

Gideon Rachman talks to Mark Malloch-Brown, former deputy secretary-general of the UN, about the UN's impact on global security, policy on migration and refugees, and climate change. They also discuss the challenges facing the UN, including accusations of genocide in Gaza and the deadlock over Ukraine in the Security Council. The podcast explores the underappreciated work done by UN institutions and the moral authority of the organization. It also delves into the leadership styles of different Secretary Generals and the role of the UN in global politics.