From a misinformation scandal to a so-called trolling campaign, Kara and Scott discuss the first few days of Elon Musk's Twitter. Also, Apple beat earnings expectations, but how long can it depend on iPhone sales? Mark Zuckerberg will testify in a case brought by the FTC, and Lula da Silva takes back the Brazilian presidency. Friend of Pivot Margaret Sullivan talks about the state of journalism and her new book, Newsroom Confidential.You can find Margaret on Twitter at @Sulliview and Newsroom Confidential here.Kara’s interview with John Legend will be up soon on On with Kara Swisher - click here to follow the show feed and hear that interview when it’s released.Send us your questions! Call 855-51-PIVOT or go to nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A recent study by the Reuters Institute found that only 29% of Americans say they trust the news most of the time. Where has the press gone wrong — and how can it change to better serve the public? Longtime media critic Margaret Sullivan explores these questions in her new book, Newsroom Confidential: Lessons (and Worries) From an Ink-Stained Life. Below are excerpts from her interview with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu.

In this discussion, Margaret Sullivan, former public editor at The New York Times and author of the Substack "American Crisis," delves into Donald Trump's recent outburst against the Times. She analyzes Trump's escalating demands for media loyalty and the potential ramifications for press freedom. The conversation highlights the challenges journalists face in maintaining integrity amid political pressure and explores strategies Trump might use to manipulate coverage. Sullivan offers insights on the urgent need for accountability in journalism during such politically charged times.

Reporters Erum Salam and Margaret Sullivan discuss the US college protests and crackdowns on campuses. They cover student activism, campus arrests, anti-Israel sentiments vs anti-Semitic behaviors, controversies on free speech and anti-Semitism at elite institutions, and negotiations for divestment at Columbia University.

Sean Illing talks with Washington Post media columnist Margaret Sullivan about his new book The Paradox of Democracy, which he co-authored with media studies professor Zac Gershberg. Sean and Margaret discuss the relationship between free expression and democratic society, talk about whether or not the January 6th hearings are doing anything at all politically, and discuss some potential ways to bolster democratic values in the media ecology of the present.This was originally released as an episode of Vox Conversations in July.Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, VoxGuest: Margaret Sullivan (@Sulliview), media columnist, Washington PostReferences:  The Paradox of Democracy: Free Speech, Open Media, and Perilous Persuasion by Zac Gershberg and Sean Illing (Chicago; 2022) Ghosting the News: Local Journalism and the Crisis of American Democracy by Margaret Sullivan (Columbia Global Reports; 2020) "Four reasons the Jan. 6 hearings have conquered the news cycle" by Margaret Sullivan (Washington Post; July 22) Understanding Media by Marshall McLuhan (1964) Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman (1985) Newsroom Confidential: Lessons (and Worries) from an Ink-Stained Life by Margaret Sullivan (St. Martin's; Oct. 2022) Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of The Gray Area by subscribing in your favorite podcast app.Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcastsThis episode was made by:  Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Patrick Boyd Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sean Illing talks with Washington Post media columnist Margaret Sullivan about his new book The Paradox of Democracy, which he co-authored with media studies professor Zac Gershberg. Sean and Margaret discuss the relationship between free expression and democratic society, talk about whether or not the January 6th hearings are doing anything at all politically, and discuss some potential ways to bolster democratic values in the media ecology of the present.Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, VoxGuest: Margaret Sullivan (@Sulliview), media columnist, Washington PostReferences:  The Paradox of Democracy: Free Speech, Open Media, and Perilous Persuasion by Zac Gershberg and Sean Illing (Chicago; 2022) Ghosting the News: Local Journalism and the Crisis of American Democracy by Margaret Sullivan (Columbia Global Reports; 2020) "Four reasons the Jan. 6 hearings have conquered the news cycle" by Margaret Sullivan (Washington Post; July 22) Understanding Media by Marshall McLuhan (1964) Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman (1985) Newsroom Confidential: Lessons (and Worries) from an Ink-Stained Life by Margaret Sullivan (St. Martin's; Oct. 2022) Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app.Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcastsThis episode was made by:  Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Patrick Boyd Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this engaging discussion with Margaret Sullivan, a seasoned journalist and former New York Times editor, key topics include the potential return of Trump and its implications for media credibility. Margaret emphasizes the dangers of authoritarianism and how the Trump presidency poses existential threats to journalism. She also examines the struggle of mainstream media and the rise of new platforms like Substack. With a focus on courage among reporters, she urges a sturdy journalism ethic amidst evolving political landscapes and challenges in holding power accountable.

Margaret Sullivan, former public editor at The New York Times and author of the Substack "American Crisis," dives into Donald Trump's recent furious reaction to media coverage surrounding his aide. She discusses the unsettling loyalty Trump demands from his supporters and the potential dangers for press freedom if he returns to power. The conversation highlights Trump's attempts to intimidate journalists, the challenges of maintaining neutrality in reporting, and the implications of his media strategies on democracy.

Kyle Pope, former editor of the Columbia Journalism Review, joins Margaret Sullivan, head of the ethics center at the Columbia School of Journalism, for a deep dive into the ethical challenges in journalism today. They discuss the erosion of accountability in the media, particularly influenced by Donald Trump. The conversation covers the importance of distinguishing credible journalism from misinformation and the need for a revival of the ombudsman role. They also tackle how coverage impacts political figures and the ethical dilemmas journalists face in this rapidly evolving landscape.

Margaret Sullivan from The Guardian discusses the upcoming Trump vs. Biden debate, exploring tactics, debate dynamics, and contrasting campaign strategies. The podcast also examines CNN's challenges and controversial relationship with Trump, highlighting the implications of hosting a presidential debate.