Margaret Levi, a political science professor at Stanford and expert in political economy, delves into the essence of governmental trust and legitimacy. She discusses why individuals yield authority to governments and the vital role of political equality amidst economic disparities. The conversation highlights the erosion of trust in institutions, exemplified by political revolts in Australia, and emphasizes the need for innovative governance. Levi also explores how solidarity in labor unions and constructive dialogue can counter political polarization, fostering a stronger democratic society.