This week's guest is Dr. Margaret-Anne Storey, who goes by the name Peggy. Peggy is a professor of Computer Science at the University of Victoria, the Chief Scientist at DX, and co-author of the SPACE Framework, which is the topic of focus in this episode. Today’s conversation discusses what the SPACE framework is and what went into developing the metrics and categories. Peggy also shares where she sees this line of research heading next.  —Discussion points: (1:29) Peggy’s background (4:01) What the SPACE framework is (5:55) Why the researchers came together for this paper(7:27) The process of writing this paper(9:52) How the SPACE categories and acronym emerged (11:50) The authors’ intention for how this framework would be received(13:26) Finding a definition for what developer productivity is(17:08) The metrics included in the SPACE framework (24:48) How SPACE is different from DORA(26:17) Why lines of code and number of pull requests were included as example metrics(27:14) What Peggy is thinking about next—Mentions and links: Where to find Peggy: Twitter, WebsiteThe SPACE of Developer Productivity: There’s more to it than you think by Nicole Forsgren, Margaret-Anne Storey, Chandra Madilla, Thomas Zimmerman, Brian Houck, and Jenna ButlerAbi’s summary of the SPACE paper Peggy’s talk, What Does Productivity Actually Mean for Developers? 

“The three core dimensions of developer experience are feedback loops, cognitive load, and flow state." Margaret-Anne (Peggy) Storey and Abi Noda are the coauthors of the recently published ACM paper “DevEx: What Actually Drives Productivity”. In this episode, we discussed how we can better measure and improve developer productivity using a developer-centric approach. Peggy and Abi first began by explaining the importance of socio-technical factors in software development. They also shared their view on the well-known SPACE and DORA metrics, and pointed out the danger of misusing and abusing the DORA metrics. Peggy and Abi then explained the three core dimensions of developer experience from their latest paper, which are feedback loops, cognitive load, and flow state. Towards the end, Peggy and Abi shared tips on how we can start measuring developer experience, including how to conduct developer surveys properly.   Listen out for: Career Journey - [00:04:09] First Developer Experience Paper - [00:06:19] Socio-Technical Factors - [00:07:37] SPACE & DORA Metrics - [00:13:35] Misuse and Abuse of DORA Metrics - [00:18:52] New Developer Experience Paper - [00:22:29] Developer Experience - [00:24:55] 3 Core Dimensions - [00:28:11] Optimizing Feedback Loops - [00:32:44] Cognitive Load - [00:37:06] Flow State - [00:40:32] Importance of Culture - [00:46:25] Measuring Developer Experience - [00:50:27] Conducting Survey - [00:54:29] 3 Tech Lead Wisdom - [01:00:10] _____ Margaret-Anne Storey’s BioMargaret-Anne (Peggy) Storey is a professor of computer science at the University of Victoria and holds a Canada Research Chair in human and social aspects of software engineering. Her research focuses on improving processes, tools, communication, and collaboration in software engineering. She serves as chief scientist at DX and consults with Microsoft to improve developer productivity. Abi Noda’s BioAbi Noda is the founder and CEO at DX, where he leads the company’s strategic direction and R&D efforts. His work focuses on developing measurement methods to help organizations improve developer experience and productivity. Before joining DX, Noda held engineering leadership roles at various companies and founded Pull Panda, which was acquired by GitHub in 2019. For more information, visit his website at abinoda.com. Follow Margaret: LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/margaret-anne-storey-8419462 Twitter – @margaretstorey Follow Abi: LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/abinoda Twitter – @abinoda Newsletter – newsletter.abinoda.com _____ Our Sponsors Are you looking for a new cool swag? Tech Lead Journal now offers you some swags that you can purchase online. These swags are printed on-demand based on your preference, and will be delivered safely to you all over the world where shipping is available. Check out all the cool swags available by visiting techleadjournal.dev/shop. And don't forget to brag yourself once you receive any of those swags. Like this episode? Show notes & transcript: techleadjournal.dev/episodes/134. Follow @techleadjournal on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram. Buy me a coffee or become a patron.

Margaret-Anne Storey and Abi Noda discuss the misuse of DORA metrics and introduce three core dimensions of developer experience: feedback loops, cognitive load, and flow state.