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In this episode of the Big Deal Podcast, Codie interviews magician Alex Ramon, exploring the intersection of magic, psychology, and communication. They discuss how to read body language, the importance of first impressions, and techniques for engaging an audience. Alex shares insights on projecting confidence, the art of suggestion, and the significance of listening to your audience. The convo also delves into the secrets of magic and the role of hypnotism in performance. They draw parallels between the art of magic and business practices, emphasizing that honesty does not always equate to full transparency. Alex highlights the significance of clarity in goals and the continuous journey of learning and growth in both personal and professional realms. Alex also bought a business by learning from Codie. It was a vertical integration in the entertainment industry, sharing personal experiences and insights on financial management. The discussion transitions into negotiation strategies, emphasizing the significance of reframing objections during negotiations. YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS IT.