Marc Leepson

In this discussion, historian Marc Leepson, author of 'Flag: An American Biography,' uncovers the intriguing backstory of the American flag. He sheds light on the evolution of its design and significant moments that shaped its identity, such as its role in the Civil War and the Spanish-American War. The conversation also debunks the myth surrounding Betsy Ross's involvement and explores the flag's deep emotional connection to patriotism, national pride, and the rituals that surround it in American culture.

In this enlightening discussion, historian Marc Leepson, author of a Francis Scott Key biography, unveils Key's complex ties to slavery and his surprising role in creating the national anthem. Tim Grove, a Smithsonian consultant, shares insights on the Star-Spangled Banner's debut with the Battle of Baltimore as its backdrop. They explore Key's motivations, the song's controversial lyrics, and the stark contradictions between its message of freedom and the reality of slavery in early America, all framed within a historical narrative that resonates today.