Marc Gafni and Zak Stein, co-authors of "First Principles and First Values," delve into profound themes of alienation and value. They discuss rekindling emotional engagement in education and the healing power of imagination, particularly through storytelling. The conversation highlights the notion of a global intimacy disorder and its impacts on existential risks. They also explore the dynamics of authentic connections amidst a complex world, advocating for genuine interactions that honor human worth and promote deeper understanding in relationships.