James Donald Forbes McCann returns with Jacob Imam, who highlights the significance of cash in the American economy, especially for marginalized communities. Marc Barnes dives into the intricacies of marital debt and budgeting techniques, sharing insights about the envelope method. The conversation also turns to the ethics of stock market practices and the responsibilities of the wealthy in today's world. They humorously connect these financial discussions to pop culture, critiquing the moral dimensions of characters like Tony Stark in Iron Man.

Marc Barnes, a podcast host and writer from New Polity, joins the show to discuss technology, reality, and spirituality. The conversation covers the problems highlighted in 'The Anatomy of Melancholy,' the ambiguity of technology, the role of emojis in communication, reliance on technology in medicine, parallels between tyranny and technology, virtue signaling in consumer goods, the church's perspective on atheists, the significance of godparenting in Christianity, and a deep dive into the historical and societal factors shaping our understanding of gender.