In this discussion, Marc Alan Schelske, a pastor and author passionate about grace and growth, delves into the essence of co-suffering love as exemplified by Jesus. He shares insights from his new book, encouraging listeners to embrace other-centeredness during Lent. Topics include the transformative power of devotional literature, the gardening metaphor for personal growth, and the significance of community in spiritual journeys. Marc invites introspection and rewilding in one's spirituality, all while maintaining a light-hearted tone.