In this special episode of To The Point Home Services Podcast, Chris, Chad, and their good friend Aaron Gaynor (Eco Plumbers, Drains, Heating, & Cooling) dive deep into the pivotal turning points that shaped their businesses and personal journeys.

From the early grind of starting out, to breakthroughs with Nexstar, writing down big goals, creating a Vivid Vision, and learning from both wins and failures—this conversation is full of raw, unfiltered insights every contractor and home service leader can relate to.

You’ll hear about:

The exact moments when each of them realized they had “a real business”
Why writing down goals and building a strategy changed everything
How to stay aligned with your vision during tough times
The role of self-talk, affirmations, and personal growth in business success
Hard lessons learned from making the wrong hires (and how to fix it)
Why culture, leadership, and energy transfer matter more than you think

And of course—some dad jokes to keep things light.

Whether you’re at $1M, $10M, or scaling toward $100M, this episode is packed with practical takeaways on leadership, growth, and resilience in the trades.

⏱️ Timecodes:

00:00 – Intro & catching up with Aaron

01:27 – The Turning Point: defining moments in business

08:00 – Realizing you’re running a successful business

12:00 – Writing down goals & building a long-term vision

20:00 – Vivid Vision & EOS: how to align your team

24:00 – Daily affirmations & self-talk for leaders

30:00 – Handling challenges & negative chapters in business

32:30 – Lessons from bad hires and how to avoid them

40:00 – Sales leadership: coaching vs. cutting ties

50:00 – Final takeaways on growth & leadership

📌 Resources & Mentions:

Vivid Vision by Cameron Herold
Double Double by Cameron Herold
EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) framework
Earl Nightingale – The Strangest Secret

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