In this engaging conversation, leaders Brian Brodersen, Kike Tores, Richard Cimino, and Manolo Matos explore the intricate world of pastoral ministry beyond preaching. They discuss the vital importance of nurturing mature followers and the emotional challenges pastors face. The group emphasizes the need for teamwork and relational engagement, critiquing the pressure for immediate church growth. They also redefine success in ministry, underscoring faithfulness to God's calling and the significance of genuine connections within the community.