Malarndirri McCarthy, the Minister for Indigenous Australians, tackles the sobering findings of the latest Closing the Gap report, where only five of 19 targets show progress. She discusses criticism surrounding the initiative, including calls for its overhaul, and highlights new government funding targeted at remote communities. The conversation covers urgent issues like rising Indigenous incarceration rates, the need for reform in justice systems, and empowering First Nations through job opportunities, particularly for women. McCarthy emphasizes community-driven solutions and aims for a more effective partnership.