Ma Tianjie
Beijing-based journalist and environmental activist; author of In Search of Green China, interviewed here about Pan Yue and China's ecological civilization.
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Oct 18, 2025 • 1h 16min
In Search of Green China: Ma Tianjie on Pan Yue and the CCP’s “Ecological Civilization"
Ma Tianjie, a Beijing-based journalist and environmental activist, delves into the life of Pan Yue, a key figure in developing China's concept of 'ecological civilization.' They discuss how this idea melds traditional culture with eco-Marxism. Ma highlights the Huai River crisis and its role in public awakening about pollution, as well as the challenges of navigating authoritarian policies versus sustainable development. He critiques the selective use of cultural narratives, explores the geopolitical context, and examines whether a radical ecological transformation is feasible in China.
Oct 18, 2025 • 1h 16min
In Search of Green China: Ma Tianjie on Pan Yue and the CCP’s “Ecological Civilization"
Ma Tianjie, a Beijing-based journalist and environmental activist, dives into the life of Pan Yue, a key figure in the Chinese Communist Party advocating for ecological civilization. They discuss how this concept melds traditional Chinese values with eco-Marxism, raising questions about its sincerity versus eco-authoritarianism. The conversation explores historical narratives, grassroots activism spurred by severe pollution, and the role of governmental policy in shaping environmental futures. Tianjie also critiques romanticized views of China's ecological efforts and examines the impact of geopolitical tensions on green initiatives.
