In this engaging discussion, M. John Harrison, celebrated novelist and critic known for his unique contributions to science fiction and fantasy, dives into the rerelease of his cult classic, The Course of the Heart. He shares personal insights into grief and memory woven throughout the story. Their conversation also touches on the challenges of balancing realism and fantasy in literature, the evolution of science fiction, and how influential figures like Iain Banks inspired his creative journey, reminding him to have fun with his writing.