Award-winning photojournalist Lynsey Addario discusses the real-life experiences of covering wars abroad and compares them to the depiction in Alex Garland's new film 'Civil War'. The podcast delves into the emotional toll and impact of being a war photographer, the changing perception and treatment of journalists, the emotional toll of war photography, and documenting human rights abuses and war crimes.

Caitlin Dickerson, a staff writer for The Atlantic, and Lynsey Addario, an acclaimed photographer, delve into the harrowing journey through the Darién Gap. They recount the physical and emotional trials faced by families, including a poignant story of a mother coping with loss. The duo highlights how dangerous migration routes are exacerbated by U.S. immigration policies and cartels exploiting the vulnerable. Their firsthand experiences paint a vivid picture of desperation, revealing the diverse backgrounds of those fleeing persecution.

This episode details graphic scenes and contains strong language.The image shows four people lying on the ground — a woman, a man and two children who had been fleeing from a suburb of Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital. The woman and her children had been killed by a mortar moments earlier. Around them are Ukrainian soldiers attempting to revive the man.The picture was taken by the photojournalist Lynsey Addario, alongside Andriy Dubchak, a Ukrainian videographer. When it was published by The Times, the image became a watershed, offering irrefutable evidence that Russia’s tactics in the war were killing civilians.Guest: Lynsey Addario, a photojournalist currently working in Ukraine.Background reading: President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has repeatedly denied that his forces are targeting civilians. But only a handful of Ukrainian troops were near the bridge when mortar shells began raining down, and they were helping refugees escape Kyiv.Want more from The Daily? For one big idea on the news each week from our team, subscribe to our newsletter. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.