Yvonne Jewkes, a Professor of Criminology at the University of Bath, discusses innovative prison designs that foster rehabilitation, showcasing successful examples like Norway's Halden prison. Lynne McMordie, a Research Associate at Heriot-Watt University, sheds light on the issues homeless individuals face in shelters, arguing that the communal environment often exacerbates their struggles. The conversation advocates for humane living spaces and sustainable housing solutions, emphasizing the need for respect towards individual choices in coping with homelessness.