Lynette Lopez, a journalist known for her critical coverage of Tesla and Elon Musk, joins former military employee Carl Hansen, who worked on Tesla's internal investigations. They dive into Martin Tripp's whistleblowing saga, exposing the alarming surveillance tactics employed by Tesla to silence dissent. The conversation highlights the ethical dilemmas of corporate secrecy, the chilling effects of arbitration on transparency, and Musk's aggressive information control. Expect gripping insights into the intersection of power and accountability in the tech world.