Lutz Schwenke, founder of Two Thirds, and Jordi Llatje i Espinal, branch manager at Triodos Bank, discuss the urgent need for reforms in capitalism. Schwenke shares his journey in creating a sustainable fashion brand that counters fast fashion's wastefulness. Llatje highlights the ethical banking model that prioritizes social impact over profits. Together, they explore the shift from profit maximization to responsibility, and how businesses can balance growth with ethical practices, paving the way for a more humane economic system.