Dr. Lucia Ardovini, an expert on contemporary Muslim political movements, discusses the Muslim Brotherhood's identity crisis post-2013. The conversation delves into their internal debates on roles between preaching and leadership amid political repression. Ardovini highlights the emergence of new political parties by former members and the Brotherhood's youth engaging with secular groups. The discussion also covers the organization's evolving identities and the tensions between traditionalists and progressives as they adapt to a changing political landscape.