Daniel Thompson-Yvetot and Lucas Nogueira join to talk about Tauri, advantages over Electron, importance of security in open source, future of cross-platform apps. They discuss governance in open source projects and Tauri's approach with Crab Nebula. They also explore optimizing bundle sizes, impact on the planet, challenges for digital nomads, and importance of updates and security in frameworks and applications. They conclude by discussing building mobile apps with Tauri and the importance of listening to users and staying innovative.