Louise Matsakis, a Wired journalist specializing in TikTok, and Rana Mitter, a Harvard Kennedy School professor of modern China, explore the app’s precarious position in the U.S. landscape. They discuss the massive American user base, the national security concerns raised by politicians, and TikTok's evolution into a cultural phenomenon. The conversation dives into potential ownership changes and the app's impact on American politics, including Trump's strategic use of TikTok during his campaign. It's a lively examination of technology and trust in the digital age.