Lori Cordini, survivor of a 1971 UFO crash near Edwards Air Force base, discusses her eyewitness account of a small, grayish craft with no windows that landed upright. They also explore Lori's encounters with extraterrestrial beings and her belief in a dual three-dimensional human and four-dimensional light being existence. The podcast highlights the existence of a CIA UFO crash retrieval program and expresses disappointment towards dismissive attitudes.