In this discussion, Lord Maude, a former Minister for the Cabinet Office, dives into his recent Independent Review of Governance and Accountability in the Civil Service. He highlights the complexity and confusion in current government structures and outlines 57 proposals to enhance accountability and governance. The conversation covers pressing topics such as the proposal to split the Treasury, the role of the Cabinet Secretary, strategies for retaining talent, and the need for improved collaboration across departments, aiming for meaningful civil service reform.