Jonathan Calvillo, an expert on Latino Pentecostal communities, and Reverend Lois Olena, a scholar of the Holocaust and refugee advocate, delve into the shocking reality of ICE raids at churches. They discuss the emotional upheaval experienced by families during worship and the pivotal role of faith communities in advocating for immigrant rights. The conversation highlights contrasting views within Pentecostalism regarding immigration policies and the intertwined nature of faith and social justice, revealing how these challenges reshape church missions amid fear and hope.