In this discussion, guests Sarah Isger, a seasoned legal commentator and former DOJ spokesperson, and Liz Brunig, a criminal justice writer from The Atlantic, delve into the alarming rise of executions in the U.S. They explore Trump’s motivations behind capital punishment, examining its political implications. The conversation shifts to Gen Z's political disillusionment, revealing how economic pressures and social dynamics influence their views. The episode also tackles the complexities of presidential pardons and their need for reform, highlighting the duality of mercy and justice.